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Wall Street Journal Article Discusses: “Are 30-something women more likely to marry for money?”

January 11, 2008 By: admin Category: Uncategorized No Comments →

Hey Chicks,

Oh lord. One side of me is saying “Go, Girl, marry the rich guy, don’t work!” and the other side is saying, “Get a grip! Make your own fortune and marry a guy you REALLY love!”

My tired side of being a businessowner for almost 2 decades (started my first company at 25) is rooting for the marrying rich avenue. But I committed to my partner for love and play a big part in my family’s income. And I am a total entrepreneur, so I don’t think I’d ever “not work”.

CHICKS! I was so torn reading this article…maybe seeking the rich guy/gal is a smart move…but, maybe not. As a self-made chick, I struggle with how I feel about this. Can you tell?

But then I had to laugh as I read the article because marrying for wealth isn’t just a chick thing anymore. The number of guys looking for sugarmama’s is booming! According to the article, 61% of men in their 40’s said they’d marry a woman for money.

I suppose this all supprts why so many people buy lottery tickets. We’d all prefer it (me included) given to us.

I rather like the approach my recent guest took and explained on my podcast, Chicknomics Chat. Alicia Dunams wrote “Goal Digger” (isn’t that fabulous title??) and it’s all about what she learned from dating rich men that helped her become wealthy on her own (not by giving her money; by inspiring her to make her own money).

She’s attractive, in her mid-30’s, single mom of a (now) 6 year-old daughter, and lives in San Francisco. She pursued only dating rich men after her divorce when her daughter was 2. After pursuing only rich guys (she even joined a rich guy dating service), she learned through them she could do it on her own…and she did!

Isn’t that cool? She wrote all about in her book and now even has an entire business devoted to empowering women to become wealthy on their own. She has a big event coming up called the Wealthy Girl Summit, and it’s a virtual event so you don’t have to travel. Just grab a snack and attend via your computer. It’s very cool so you should check it out. It’s a 4-day event and runs from January 24-27.

Anyway, I totally stumbled across this Wall Street Journal article tonight on Yahoo and that sparked me to write about this topic. And then it played well into telling you about Alicia’s event, so there you go.

Am I jealous of the women who married for money? Or do I not respect them? Man, that is a fine line in my brain. But I’ve never had a mutli-millionaire propose to me so that would be the real test of what I’m made of.

Here is the Wall Street Journal article. There is a lot of interesting info in here about all of this:

Marrying for Love … of Money
by Robert Frank
Wednesday, January 9, 2008

On a recent episode of “Dirty Sexy Money,” ABC’s soapy drama about the filthy rich, heiress Karen Darling gets married for the fourth time, to a golf pro. Minutes after the ceremony, she decides she wants a divorce, leaving the golfer to wonder about his $3 million guarantee in the pre-nuptial agreement.

I still get the check, right?” he asks.

“Of course,” Ms. Darling sneers. “I made a vow.”

Marrying for money isn’t just grist for television plot lines. With the wealth boom creating unprecedented riches — and greater opportunities for gold-digging by both genders — price-tag partnerships and checkbook breakups are increasingly making headlines. Even more surprising, according to a new survey, are the going rates for today’s mercenary unions.

BEAUTY FADES

Celebrities get the most attention, of course, whether it’s Kevin Federline, the backup dancer-turned-millionaire ex of Britney Spears, or Heather Mills, Paul McCartney’s estranged second wife, who is set to receive tens of millions of dollars when her divorce is final, according to the British press.

Yet even among the workaday (or wannabe) wealthy, marrying for money has become a popular pursuit. In an infamous personal ad posted on Craigslist this summer, a twentysomething New Yorker who described herself as “spectacularly beautiful” wrote that she was looking for a man who made at least $500,000 a year. She’d tried dating men earning $250,000, but that wasn’t “getting me to Central Park West,” she said. The ad inspired all manner of parodies and follow-ups, including one by an investment banker, who replied that since his money would grow over time but her beauty would fade, the offer didn’t make good business sense. She was, he said, a “depreciating asset.”

To many New Yorkers, jaded by multimillion-dollar condos and wall-to-wall wealth, the salary request probably seems reasonable, maybe even low. Yet nationally, the going rate is much lower.

According to a survey by Prince & Associates, a Connecticut-based wealth-research firm, the average “price” that men and women demand to marry for money these days is $1.5 million.

The survey polled 1,134 people nationwide with incomes ranging between $30,000 to $60,000 (squarely in the median range for nationwide incomes). The survey asked: “How willing are you to marry an average-looking person that you liked, if they had money?”

AGAINST LOVE

Fully two-thirds of women and half of the men said they were “very” or “extremely” willing to marry for money. The answers varied by age: Women in their 30s were the most likely to say they would marry for money (74%) while men in their 20s were the least likely (41%).

“I’m a little shocked at the numbers,” says Pamela Smock, a sociologist at the University of Michigan who has studied marriage and money. “It’s kind of against the notion of love and soul mates and the main motivations to marry in our culture.”

Still, Ms. Smock has found in her own research that having money does encourage people to tie the knot. “It’s more likely that a couple will marry if they have money, and if the man is economically stable,” she says.

Women aren’t the only ones with the gold-digging impulse. In the Prince & Associates study, 61% of men in their 40s said they would marry for money. Ms. Smock says that as men get older, they become more comfortable with women being the bread-winners.

The matrimonial price tag varies by gender and age. Asked how much a potential spouse would need to have to be money-marriage material, women in their 20s said $2.5 million. The going rate fell to $1.1 million for women in their 30s, and rose again to $2.2 million for women in their 40s. Ms. Smock and Russ Alan Prince, Prince & Associate’s founder, both attribute the fluctuation to the assumption that thirty-something women feel more pressure to get married than women in their 20s, so they are willing to lower the price. By their 40s, women are more comfortable being independent, so they’re willing to hold out for more cash.

Men have cheaper requirements. In the Prince survey, their asking price overall was $1.2 million, with men in their 20s asking $1 million and men in their 40s asking $1.4 million.

Douglas Freeman, a tax and estates attorney in California who works with wealthy families, says the men’s numbers are lower because they would feel threatened by women worth several million dollars. “The men aren’t going to say they want $10 million, because they wouldn’t be comfortable with a woman who’s worth so much more than they are,” he says.

Whatever the case, the prices for both men and women seem surprisingly low, given the new landscape of wealth. While $1 million or $2 million may sound like a lot to people making $30,000, it’s hardly enough to transform someone’s life or make them “rich” by contemporary billionaire standards. No one in the survey quoted a price of more than $3 million.

Of course, when the mercenary marriage proves disappointing, there’s always divorce. Among the women in their twenties who said they would marry for money, 71% said they expected to get divorced — the highest of any demographic. Only 27% of men in their 40s expected to divorce.

Says Mr. Prince: “For these women, it’s just another step on their journey to the good life. They want to be paid what they think they’re worth and then move on.”

Copyrighted, Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All rights reserved.

Hillary Clinton Makes History in New Hampshire!

January 09, 2008 By: admin Category: Uncategorized No Comments →

Hey Chicks!

I don’t care whether you’re voting for her or not, it is a BIG deal that Hillary Clinton won the New Hampshire primary. She has made history for WOMEN and is breaking down barriers for women like never before.

This sends out an amazing message to young women, and women of all ages, all over the globe. The United States, the most powerful country in the world, has a woman making BIG strides in becoming its first female President.

I also realize what Obama is accomplishing is amazing for diversity, too. And I truly respect him on many levels. I’m thrilled with the barriers both of them are breaking AND the leadership they are both showing to the world and our country. It is so important as a message of inspiration to our young people.

You CAN be a women, or you CAN be a person of color, and FINALLY have a chance at becoming President.

Here is recent press release from NOW PAC’s Chair, Kim Gandy, that I thought I’d share:

Hillary Clinton Makes History
First Woman to Win New Hampshire Primary

Tonight Senator Hillary Clinton defied the media pundit machine and made history as the first woman to win the New Hampshire Democratic primary for U.S. president.

The women of New Hampshire turned out in large numbers, and their votes helped Senator Clinton break another glass ceiling. NOW PAC is proud to be a part of this history-making campaign. We were one of the first organizations to endorse Clinton because we believe she is the best candidate to move our country forward, and New Hampshire Democrats agreed.

The United States needs strong, experienced and principled leadership to restore faith in our government and repair its credibility at home and abroad, and to end the destructive policies that have eroded women’s rights and civil liberties and increased injustice and inequality in our society.

Senator Clinton is just such a leader. She has a long history of support for women’s empowerment, and her public record is a testimony to her leadership on issues important to women in the U.S. and around the globe. She has eloquently articulated the need for full economic, political and social equality for women in every institution of society, taking action throughout her career - as a lawyer, community leader, First Lady, Senator and candidate for the presidency - to advance the civil and human rights of women and girls.

NOW leaders and activists volunteered in both Iowa and New Hampshire, giving their time and energy to turn out the women’s vote for Hillary Clinton. In her victory speech tonight, Senator Clinton said “We are in it for the long run.” Yes we are.

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Go, Chicks, go!

Lisa

Happy New Year! Did you take control of your life in 2007?

January 01, 2008 By: admin Category: Uncategorized No Comments →

Hi Chicks!

Due to gnarly colds, tons of houseguests, and lots of travel, I got very behind on writing anything on my blog in December. Something had to give, and my blogging efforts are what suffered. But it’s good to be back and I’m kicking off 2008 with a lot of enthusiasm and thankfulness.

2007 was a great year but I really think 2008 will be even better. I focused a lot of my efforts on taking control of my life in 2007 because I had so much going on that I felt out of control! Have you ever felt like that? Like you have too many irons in the fire and wonder if you’re making progress? I finally eliminated things I wasn’t truly interested in doing, made a plan for moving forward in a somewhat organized manner, and actually felt like I had accomplished a lot in 2007. I remember when 2006 came to a close, I looked back on that year as “chaotic”. I felt like I had spent that year herding cats. Luckily, 2007 ended for me with a much more “in control” feeling, and I credit that to getting more organized.

Here are a few things I’m looking forward to and thankful for:

I have lots of great guests lined-up for my Chickonomics Chat podcast so be sure to check that out. You can subscribe for free and on every episode I interview an interesting guest that you’ll learn something from, so it’s not a podcast of me babbling on about things by myself.

My recent episode is an interview with an amazing woman, Elisa Camahort, founder of BlogHer. BlogHer is the largest venue for women bloggers and is loaded with amazing info on a wide variety of topics. You can get insights from other women on topics ranging from parenting to dating to politics to business and much more. I strongly recommend listening to my interview with Elisa because I learned a lot from her and you will, too! And be sure to check out BlogHer.com if you haven’t.

Other things that I’m excited about in the new year are the speaking gigs I’m getting based on my new book, Millennials Incorporated. I’ve gotten a lot of interest from companies wanting me to educate their Boomer and Gen X managers about the new generation and many women leadership conferences are also contacting me. The Millennials (Generation Y) are a hot topic in the business world right now so talking about them, and the dynamics they bring into corporate cultures, has been really fun for me.

My son, Jenner, is also doing well and growing like a weed (he’s almost 2) so that has me very thankful and excited about the new year, too.

One resolution I have for 2008 is to be more involved in blogging and learn more about networking with other bloggers on topics I enjoy. It can be very overwhelming because there are so many good blogs on topics I like, but I plan to dedicate more time to learning the ropes more.

I know there will be lots of interesting topics pertaining to women in business, women in politics, women in leadership, etc. as the new year progresses so I’ll be sure to keep my finger on the pulse of anything “woman related” and bring what I find to you here.

I wish you all a wonderful 2008 and don’t hesitate to send me an email to say “hi”. I’m always looking for new women to interview and write about, so drop me a line.

Cheers to Chicks on 2008!

Lisa